Compunerea trenurilor din România -2013

pana la urma conform site-ului unguresc Dacia de la maine la vag de clasa va avea 4 vagoane 21-90, 2 ptr Budapesta si 2 ptr Viena in loc de 2 vag 21-86 si 1 vag 10-70 ptr Budapesta si 2 vag 21-90 ptr Viena ??

Legat de 382/383 pe distanta Buc-Suceava-Buc ar trebui ca de duminica sa dispara cele 2 vagoane 22-76/96 si sa bage 21-76, 19-76, 21-76 intrucat IR 10551/10554 Buc-Suceava de la noul mers nu mai circula astfel 382 va fi primul tren spre Suceava si 383 ultimul care ajunge in Buc de la Suceava automat va creste nr de calatori fata de cat are acum 382/383.

No, we don't have power supply in 97 series cars    As soon as MAV has few cars why do they put so many seating cars on Corona and IR 1470/1480 as well  :shock: which are not even half filled. When it comes to Budapest I still think the connection between Ister and IR 460 Romania Express is the best possible connection thus arriving in the early morning. In my opinion the former Polish cars + the current Czech and Slovakian ones are better filled than the Hungarian ones but their number is so small compared to the Hungarian ones. The Hungarian ones are almost completely empty anytime I see them in Ruse coming from Romania and the train is not allowed for intern use over here. We miss the daily train between Sofia and Belgrade which was stopped two years ago at first because of some motorway repairment but it never run after that moment. The only left one is a night and it has just one seating coach which is not enough.. On the other hand IR 460 has one Bulgarian and one Romanian coach to Bucharest which makes no sense since not more than 20 people travel during summer which is the peak for this train concerning travels on route Bulgaria Romania or vice versa... It's good to see coaches with coupettes on train IR 382/383 lately ;] A sleeping coach is needed on route Bucuresti Sofia for IR 382/383 as well. I see many foreigners asking for a sleeping coach on this route. Sometimes it's possible to travel with the RZD sleeping coach on route but it's too expensive about 40 dollars....

Katalyn a scris:

pana la urma conform site-ului unguresc Dacia de la maine la vag de clasa va avea 4 vagoane 21-90, 2 ptr Budapesta si 2 ptr Viena in loc de 2 vag 21-86 si 1 vag 10-70 ptr Budapesta si 2 vag 21-90 ptr Viena ??

Clasa intai dispare, legat de 21-90 nu pot sa-ti zic decat asa ceva pur si simplu nu exista fiind 6-7vagoane din ele inca mai sunt functionale sunt 3 garnituri asta inseamna 6 vagoane. Ar fi prea fain sa vedem 4x 21-90 la el.. dar noi avem un avantaj stim chestia asta cu revizia vagoanelor fata de cehii care habar n-au.Azi l-am vazut in keleti avea 21-86,21-76,10-70.

Vancho .. i can not discuss with you what MAV does with it's coaches.. Corona and Ady Endre have had the best coaches in like forever !! The main wagon is the MAV Bvmz/Bpmz and the Avmz...(21-91,20-71 ,19-91) ... I've seen that they are very "picky"(if i would to put it) in what they send,and where they send it .. Regardless our trains with their coaches are impeccable! because only higlhy civilesed(or the run empty) people travel with them ..
Ok . now the 97 series .. i've wrote it wrong . I meant power outlets! but i think you've understood what i meant.. And another thing .. those cars have electric heating.. so the locos do need to suply them with some current .. That what i meant with the supply tension of 1500 V ,50 Hz a.c... This is more of a standard in the countries where the locos run on 25 kV monophased alternative current.. Since Bulgaria,Romania and Hungary are on the same page,i don't think there would be any problems .. In Germany these cars ran on other voltages..
And the last thing .. If i was BDZ i would have done someting else .. Either keep 1470/1480 ,and make the to run in Sofia(i've forgot to mention this) .. or make a new train to run between Sofia-Vidin-Calafat-Craiova-(Timisoara-Arad)/Simeria-Curtici and make it a branch to IC 346 Dacia , or IC 472 Ister .... Or ... modify the time table of train 460 so it arives in Bucharest earlier ,and attach some wagons to 460 at the end of the train,so that in Bucharest IC 472 will be united directly at the stations platform with the current 460 that has just arrived from Sofia.. This last option was still used 4/5 years ago .. Sofia was sending a couchette wagon for Budapest :Pthis way...
But nevertheless i think is bullshit that you've build a new bridge and you're not using it! .. At the serbian subject i don't think i can say something .. the've isolated them self ... Bucharest-Timisoara-Beograd doesn't run like in 2 year too...


92Dragos ,nu pot sa zic ce nu merita nemtii ) .. Asta e v-au tinut in viata ani de zile cand aveati cotetze:P .. acum e randul MAV sa trimita bunaciuni ) .. Poate ramaneati cu saloanele lor,daca nu faceati gat ca nu va plac saloanele ...
Referitor la Dacia .. speram sa vina 21-90 023 ala odata!! Nu vreau sa mi imaginez cat costa biletu la clasa 1'a .. ca nu vin absolut cu nici o oferta tartanii.. E bine ca-l scot,dar rau ca 10-91(10-70 e bazat dar e solutie de avarie,si mai slab dotat decat 91'le) este oarecum la comfort peste Avmz'ul MAV ) .. Atat ca e salon si nu suport salonul .. dar scaunele alea  

Well from what I've heard from you there is no customs service in Golenti so no train can actually enter or leave Romania. I think it's not Bulgaria's fault, right ?  :roll:  We do have just 10 coaches of 97 series and they are only used on IC trains here /two trains to be more specific/. Greece has announced to return the train 460 from Thessaloniki but it couldn't happen for 2014. When it was running from Greece despite the big delays coming from Greece it was full unlike now ;[. There were people for the sleeping coach to Budapest. I hope it will be back some day but it all depends on Greece.

That shouldn't be much of a problem .. If you wan't a service to run,than you make it run .. !
I hope too that 460 will run from Thessaloniki,but there still is a problem 460+472..

IC 531+346 azi

21-76, 21-76, 10-70, Bar-Bistro + 21-76, 21-76, 21-90, 21-90, Bord-Restaurant, Cuseta, Dormitor, Dormitor.

IR 1643 :

EA, EA, 22-96, 22-96, 22-96, 22-96, 19/30-76, 22-96, Dormitor.

Astăzi, la plecarea din Timișoara, IR73-2 a avut următoarea compunere:

(21-76) (21-76) (89-87) (10-91) (21-76) (21-76) (21-86) (21-86)

Budapesta - București
Timișoara - București

R3001: 36-16, 84-16, 26-16, 26-16, 19-80
R3008: garnitura lui 3001 cu delfin de Braşov
R9101: Desiro cu 72 locuri (şi 20 de biciclete în el). Şi nu sunt şanse la garnituri mai mari... se merge la greu cu naşul.

Doctore voi ati fost asa de multi la 84-16 in seara asta la 3008 ??

Frumos traseul de azi pe care l-ati facut.

IR 1641 in seara asta la PL.Vest

20-55 114 - vag 1 Buc-TG.Mures
20-55 040 - vag 2 Buc-TG.Mures
71-31 - vag 3 Buc-TG.Mures
71-31 - vag 5 Buc-Bistrita
20-49 - vag 6 Buc-Bistrita
20-49 - Buc-Satu.Mare
19-80 - Buc-Satu.Mare
20-49 - Buc-Satu.Mare
71-31 - Buc-Satu.Mare
44-31 - Buc-Satu.Mare
44-31 - Buc-Satu.Mare
19-55 - Buc-Zalau
20-49 - Buc-Zalau

vagoanele 20-55 de la grupa de TG.Mures aveau statia de domiciliu Brasov.

Super tare Katalyn , peste 2-3 saptamani am sa folosesc acest tren pe relatia Dej-Satu Mare deci merg cu 20-49 , apoi tot cu el vin de la Zalau la Brasov (sa nu mai zica lumea ca grupa de la Zalau nu are calatori ) si tot cu 20-49 , bravo .  

Bistrita mai merita un 20-49 in rest PERFECT !

92dragos a scris:

Bistrita mai merita un 20-49 in rest PERFECT !

Daca va fi nevoie vagonul 4 circula facultativ si se poate introduce vagon clasa 2 pentru Bistrita .

Vagonul de Zalau era cel mai plin din tot trenul nu in seara asta si nu ieri ci tot timpul, ala era full, iar la grupa de Satu Mare era lejer.

1641 lasa grupa de Bistrita la Saratel la 11 km de Bistrita, se poate merge si cu un vagon, plus ca la Saratel daca e cerere se poate baga odata cu locomotiva inca un vagon.

Deci Grivita a mai eliberat niste Railjeturi, probabil pentru noua pereche de IR Bucuresti - Constanta.