Întrebări şi răspunsuri

Pasionat de trenuri și trenulețe electrice...
Vreau să fac o automatizare cu relee electromagnetice
pentru o mică buclă cu o gară cu două linii,
una directă și a doua în abatere...

Care sînt pozițiile normale ale macazelor: abătute sau pe direct ?

Am două trenuri ce se urmăresc.
Ajunge primul în gară.
La ce linie trebuie să-l primesc, avînd în vedere că după el,
din același sens, urmează al doilea ?

La plecare se mai respectă regula: ultimul sosit, primul plecat ?

După ce realizez schema și achiziționez a treia locomotivă,
voi încerca două trenuri într-un sens iar al treilea în sens invers.

Pozitia normala e pe directa. Sunt si cazuri cand pozitia normala e pe abatuta dar aici nu e cazul.
Iar la partea cu primitul depinde de rangul trenurilor si daca trebuie sa se depaseasca unul pe altul

Hello I have a question about price calculation in Romania when you travel with more than one train. Is it calculated for the whole route or it's seperately calculated for the different trains. For example if I travel this way :

R 2093 Cl2 20:00 Craiova 22:25 Tirgu Jiu
R 13023 Cl2 22:53 Tirgu Jiu 6:06 Arad

How would the price be calculated ? The whole distance or seperately for Craiova-Tirgu Jiu and Tirgu Jiu-Arad. Hope my question was clear

An another question about Fortuna Tickets : can I buy tickets for return journey (for example from Giurgiu Nord to buy ticket in advance on route Brasov-Budapest Keleti - Brasov  

Greetings from Bulgaria and thanks for your replies in advance

As avea si eu o intrebare si aceea caci multe vagoane din seria universala 50-53-0-xx-xx-x sunt trecute in seria 61-53-0-xx-xx-x dupa reviziile de anul acestea si aici ma refer la 19-87 , 21-76 ,, 10-91, 10-70, 84-76, 84-87, 21-86 , 19/20-83 , 21/20-87 etc.

vanchorusebulgaria a scris:

Hello :)I have a question about price calculation in Romania when you travel with more than one train. Is it calculated for the whole route or it's seperately calculated for the different trains. For example if I travel this way :

R 2093 Cl2 20:00 Craiova 22:25 Tirgu Jiu
R 13023 Cl2 22:53 Tirgu Jiu 6:06 Arad

How would the price be calculated ? The whole distance or seperately for Craiova-Tirgu Jiu and Tirgu Jiu-Arad. Hope my question was clear

It is calculated separately for each train. So, practically, you will recieve 2 tickets:
- Craiova - Târgu Jiu (written Tirgu Jiu, because CFR still use the pre-1993 ortography with Î instead of Â)
- Târgu Jiu - Arad
Because you buy a full price ticket, you will also get a 5% discount of the total amount as "fidelity discount".

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Katalin4653 a scris:

As avea si eu o intrebare si aceea caci multe vagoane din seria universala 50-53-0-xx-xx-x sunt trecute in seria 61-53-0-xx-xx-x dupa reviziile de anul acestea si aici ma refer la 19-87 , 21-76 ,, 10-91, 10-70, 84-76, 84-87, 21-86 , 19/20-83 , 21/20-87 etc.

Ce e aia ,,serie universală"? ) A 5a cifră nu are cum să fie zero, că nu sunt vagoane Pullman în parcul CFR Călători... E ori 1 (clasa întâi), ori 2 (clasa a doua), ori 3 (clasa întâi şi a doua), ori 4 sau 5 (cuşetă), ori 6 sau 7 (dormitor), ori 8 (alte vagoane, gen restaurant, bar etc.).
S-a trecut 61 la regim pentru vagoanele care circulă şi spre Ungaria, ca să nu mai fie necesară convenţia între cele două state. Vagoanele alea nu corespund normelor UIC pentru circulaţia internaţională, dar cum şi noi şi ungurii avem aceleaşi standarde, pot circula bine mersi şi pe acolo. E vorba de vagoanele AVA salon (21-76, 21-86, 20/21-87, 89-87, 10-70.1), de unele vagoane de biciclete 83/84-76/96 şi cam atât, pentru că 10-70, 10-90 şi 10-91 erau din start apte de trafic internaţional.

Apropo, Numărul European al Vehiculului - cum denumeşte CE codificarea UIC - are 12 cifre, nu 10.

Thank you for the reply DR2005. And how about the Fortuna tickets ?

p.s. Sorry for the wrong spelling !

vanchorusebulgaria a scris:

And how about the Fortuna tickets ?

They need to be bought with at least 7 days before the departure of the train.
Price list: http://cfrcalatori.ro/download/8174 (the prices are for one-way tickets)

Trains:
1) 406/407 Corona (Brasov, Cluj Napoca*, Gheorghieni, Miercurea Ciuc,
Sfantu Gheorghe – Budapest) - only at 2nd class seat
2) 366/367 (368/369) Harghita (Brasov, Targu Mures, Cluj Napoca,
Gheorghieni, Miercurea Ciuc, Sfantu Gheorghe – Budapest)
3) 472/473 Ister (Bucuresti, Brasov, Sighisoara – Budapest)
4) 72/73 Traianus (Bucuresti, Timisoara – Budapest)
5) 372/373 Transilvania (Sibiu, Brasov – Budapest)
6) 362/363 Maramures (Cluj Napoca, Sighetu Marmatiei – Budapest)
7) 364/365 Ady Endre (Cluj Napoca – Budapest)
78/79 Criş (Timisoara – Budapest)
9) 346/347 Dacia* (Bucuresti, Brasov, Sighisoara – Budapest) - only at 2nd class seat

They should be available at any international ticket office, you can easily cross the bridge by bike (it's free) and go buy the tickets from Giurgiu Nord.

Dr2005 a scris:

vanchorusebulgaria a scris:

Hello :)I have a question about price calculation in Romania when you travel with more than one train. Is it calculated for the whole route or it's seperately calculated for the different trains. For example if I travel this way :

R 2093 Cl2 20:00 Craiova 22:25 Tirgu Jiu
R 13023 Cl2 22:53 Tirgu Jiu 6:06 Arad

How would the price be calculated ? The whole distance or seperately for Craiova-Tirgu Jiu and Tirgu Jiu-Arad. Hope my question was clear

It is calculated separately for each train. So, practically, you will recieve 2 tickets:
- Craiova - Târgu Jiu (written Tirgu Jiu, because CFR still use the pre-1993 ortography with Î instead of Â)
- Târgu Jiu - Arad
Because you buy a full price ticket, you will also get a 5% discount of the total amount as "fidelity discount".

R2093 and R13023 is the same train, but he change the number in Târgu Jiu. If you buy a ticket from Craiova to Arad with the same numbers on it, you will get 10% discount (for changing two trains).

I see :)So I will have to buy another ticket from Budapest Keleti to Brasov ? No problem actually cause MAV have online ticket service for International routes :)Thanks for your advices :)I would like to think of the cheapest way of going to Budapest  One of the options is from Brasov to Budapest with Fortuna and for bus between Ruse and Bucuresti or train :)The other one is with TRIP TICKET Arad-Budapest-Arad but can't be cheaper than the Brasov option even if via Calafat or Zimnicea with the ferry and regios to Arad. Can I have 30 % discount for IR tickets for intern use bought online 1 month before travel date ? I've read something like that in CFR site ( 25 % for purchased 1 month before travel date + 5 % for online booking)?
And will I get this discount of 30 % as an addition on the discount for a return journey normal ticket (not bought online)?

And another question: do you have RAIL PLUS cards ? I've read about them in Bulgarian International Railway site but they don't make it clear. That card is written to give you right of 25 % discount for travelling with International trains. My point is will they allow me use that 25 % discount on Fortuna ticket Brasov-Budapesta for example. Became too complicated stopping at this point

vanchorusebulgaria a scris:

No problem actually cause MAV have online ticket service for International routes

... that MUST be printed at the special machines located only in some MAV stations (not all...).

vanchorusebulgaria a scris:

And another question:  do you have RAIL PLUS cards ? I've read about them in Bulgarian International Railway site but they don't make it clear. That card is written to give you right of 25 % discount for travelling with International trains. My point is will they allow me use that 25 % discount on Fortuna ticket Brasov-Budapesta for example. Became too complicated stopping at this point

You cannot use the Rail Plus card to buy discounted Fortuna Tickets. Fortuna Tickets is a promotional offer which may not be combined with any other offer/discount...

Thank for the answers but problem's solved. Will use CITYSTAR tickets through Serbia. For groups of 3 people it's 150 Euro the return ticket, for 5 people it's 215 Euro a combined return ticket  Which means I will have to pay just 50 or 45 Euro with other 4 or 2 people on both directions  + 10 Euro return ticket to Sofia  

am si eu o mica intrebare: de ce pe unele vagoane nu se mai trec reviziile gen: RTi 1,RTi 2 si tot asa? inainte parca era revizia mare de un an,dupa care cele mici de 6 luni! nu?

Stie cineva cam pe la ce ora intra Orient Express in Romania sau la ce ora este programat sa ajunga in Brasov?

Ai aici răspunsul: http://www.forumtrenuri.com/t2918-orient-express-2013

În Curtici ajunge la 22.00, iar în Brașov ajunge la 08.30 și pleacă la 08.42.